Miss Trisha of Earls Court

[Anitafan]

Originally Posted by Des

Then there was a fiercer eldely lady called R--- who lasted quite some time - I suspect she may have occasionally joined in with Trisha, as some posts I saw previously said that she had a scary maid who somtimes joined in. Finally towards the end there was a younger lady, well built and the friendliest of these three.

Would this fierce elderly lady be called Rusty by any chance? If so, I think she became a domme in her own right, before going on to be a Madam

[Mistress Susannah]

Originally Posted by GordonFreeman

Happy days!

Happy days? A folder of personal letters to flick through and a peephole to watch another client in action without their knowledge? What an astonishing code of conduct you all remember so fondly. If a Mistress operated like that nowadays she'd, quite rightly, be vilified.

Originally Posted by Mistress Susannah

Happy days? A folder of personal letters to flick through and a peephole to watch another client in action without their knowledge? What an astonishing code of conduct you all remember so fondly. If a Mistress operated like that nowadays she'd, quite rightly, be vilified.

Thing is, though, that it was a different time and a different place. The peephole, had I known about it at the time, would have put me off but for quite a few of us Trisha was a big step forward from what had gone before and she gave us some great memories

We didn't have comparators about whether or not a folder of personal letters was acceptable or not. Indeed it was probably the only time we ever saw one. Hindsight is a much more exact science and in the cold light of 40 years on it may all seem more than a bit off - and, yes, people today may have a different take on it - especially if they didn't have their first sessioning experiences in those times

Yes it is much better today - that does not mean that they were not happy - more innocent - days which some of us treasure

[Mistress Susannah]

Originally Posted by Lisal

Yes it is much better today - that does not mean that they were not happy - more innocent - days which some of us treasure

Fair enough. I'm glad I wasn't around then to deal with such unprofessional bullshit though.

Originally Posted by Mistress Susannah

Fair enough. I'm glad I wasn't around then to deal with such unprofessional bullshit though.

Thing is, though, if you had been around at that time you wouldn't have known that it was unprofessional bullshit - which is true of how it was for a lot of us

And, at the time, quite a bit of it was likely not unprofessional bullshit. Everyone - dommes and subs alike - were learning about how it should be and how it should work. Most of what was done was done in good faith ( I might exclude the peephole from that!!!!!)

[Mistress Susannah]

Originally Posted by Lisal

Thing is, though, if you had been around at that time you wouldn't have known that it was unprofessional bullshit - which is true of how it was for a lot of us

And, at the time, quite bit of it was likely not unprofessional bullshit. Everyone - dommes and subs alike - were learning about how it should be and how it should work. Most of what was done was done in good faith ( I might exclude the peephole from that!!!!!)

Um... I know not to show private correspondence to people (complete with explicit pictures) not because of "how things are done" but because I actually have a little respect for the discretion of all of those who come into my life.

I'm merely mentioning how little condemnation there is on this thread for things like that. They appear to be mentioned as curious oddities from "ye good olde days" rather than what I would consider to be pretty dispicable behaviour, regardless of the century!

[Slutty Rimmer]

Originally Posted by Lisal

for quite a few of us Trisha was a big step forward from what had gone before and she gave us some great memories

I am saddened by the news of Mistress Trisha's passing. As I have often mentioned, it was nothing more than a single Black & White image of Trisha in one of those early contact mags which awakened the submissive feelings in my teenage self*. There was obviously something quite outstanding and otherworldly about this lady, and this impression is only reinforced by the fond memories recalled here.

In reading the posts of this thread it does make me wonder if perhaps over time the world of Professional Domination might have certain salient Mistresses who radically change the scene and who dominate not only their submissives but also the future direction of all submissives. Much like the progenitors and unique originals seen in other fields. A sort of Shakespeare or Elvis of the Pro-Kink world.

Mistress Trisha certainly seems to have been a most influential lady of her time. Has there been a similar colossus in the current Internet age, or does the homogeneity and accessibility of the net prevent originality persisting for any length of time ? Or is it simply the Elvis phenomenon....

"Before anyone did anything, Elvis did everything."

I never met Mistress Trisha, but her very existence has remotely animated me across space and time. I am very thankful and in awe that such special ladies have existed and continue to exist...they make our world a wonderful one. It is for me the real reason why the fatuous sunbeams toiled to break Earth's sleep and make 'the clay grow tall'.

Kind Regards,
Rimmer.

* In reference to the recent thread 'When did you know ?', it was for me when I first happened upon Mistress Trisha's adverts. I remember with crystal clarity the heart-thumping moment my sight was caught and snared by that stunning picture. Mistress Trisha's beautiful stern hard eyes pierced deep within me and harpooned my soul for all Womakind. My life changed forever in just the turning of a page.

Thankfully, I managed to track down a few of the magazines a while back, and I was surprised by the potency and power they still held. The style and attire was timelessly classic which therefore is still contemporary today.

Originally Posted by Mistress Susannah

Um... I know not to show private correspondence to people (complete with explicit pictures) not because of "how things are done" but because I actually have a little respect for the discretion of all of those who come into my life.

I'm merely mentioning how little condemnation there is on this thread for things like that. They appear to be mentioned as curious oddities from "ye good olde days" rather than what I would consider to be pretty dispicable behaviour, regardless of the century!

Well maybe.

I am not sure any of us can really say how we would be in a different time and in a different place. I share your views now - 35 years ago it just wasn't something that struck me as odd or wrong - in that particular situation as it was all very new to a lot of us.

I honestly think it was because of this - no-one really saw it as wrong - that there isn't the condemnation that you mention. We kind of know how everyone was thinking and feeling and there was no bad intent behind it. You see it as despicable behaviour - most of uswho posted on this thread who knew the lady involved would (I think anyway) say that she was a good person who gave a lot of us a real leg up on the ladder of sessioning. It doesn't mean that she didn't get it wrong at times - but not with any malice involved

I was going to start a thread in DoI on this difference between how current dommes and us veteran subs look at these phone card days. I may yet but it could get a bit heated which I want to avoid.

[Des]

Originally Posted by Anitafan

Would this fierce elderly lady be called Rusty by any chance? If so, I think she became a domme in her own right, before going on to be a Madam

No it wasn't Rusty, but:
What's in a name?
A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

But perhaps not this particular Rose.

I think that Rusty worked in several of the local dungeons that June had operated from. She had also been in some of these dungeons in that major road that Trisha's Gardens exited onto. I think she may have been fairly recently in that basement which may or may not have been adjacent to traffic lights in that road. The one that might or might not still be there and which may or may not have brick-like wallpaper.

Musn't give away names or locations too easily or a censorious moderator might get upset.

Originally Posted by Mistress Susannah

Happy days? A folder of personal letters to flick through and a peephole to watch another client in action without their knowledge? What an astonishing code of conduct you all remember so fondly. If a Mistress operated like that nowadays she'd, quite rightly, be vilified.

The folder of personal letters was completely harmless regarding client confidentiality. The addresses were neatly clipped off, and the pictures were also well censored. Yes they showed sexual aspects of domination/humiliation not available at that time elsewhere. However the intent was to both titillate the client for the coming session and to invite repeat sessions, perhaps further exploring latent desires or sexuality hitherto unsatisfied. No faces or anything hinting at identity were on show. To me that is fine, and was a step forward at that time.

However I am uneasy about the peep hole. Given the description, and the technology available at that time, then I am fairly sure that it would not have been possible to utilise it for any filming. But that's still not good enough.

Maybe it's a case of what you don't know about won't harm you? Not a brilliant philosophy, but perhaps that's how Trisha saw it. Though how would she decide who might be allowed to surreptitiously watch? Perhaps someone who was allowed to use the peep hole could cast some light on this?

Slutty Rimmer, if you have any pictures of Trisha I would love to see these. I have a couple myself from these mags.

Finally I have a couple of times seen the comment that the scene is better now. I have to disagree vigorously - the scene to me was much better then. A weekend in London with a dominatrix on every corner in Earl's Court, not to mention a few specialists in Soho as well. No booking required. Short, sharp sessions with a happy outcome. Then down to the pub. Absolutely fabulous sweetie.

Originally Posted by Des

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I think that Rusty worked in several of the local dungeons that June had operated from. She had also been in some of these dungeons in that major road that Trisha's Gardens exited onto. I think she may have been fairly recently in that basement which may or may not have been adjacent to traffic lights in that road. The one that might or might not still be there and which may or may not have brick-like wallpaper.

Musn't give away names or locations too easily or a censorious moderator might get upset.

Neat

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I remember that road too

I would just like to comment on the censorious mod thing. I am very much in two minds about this address thing. For those of us from the phonecard days we see little (or no) harm in mentioning roads. Pretty much every domme in those days rented their place and many were transient. I think I saw Mistress Morgan at five different places. I recall how worried I was when she said she was moving but didn't want to give the address out yet. We think that there is no way any connection could be made

I am also pretty aware that MM, for instance, would have had no issues about us chatting about her and where she worked. However, I have a vague idea of where she retired to and what she was going to do and I would never divulge that to anyone - even given the length of time that has passed

It is much different now. Dommes tend not to move around so much and some work from their own place etc etc etc. If The Boss gave up there is no way I would ever talk about where she worked. There is also the out of the big city thing - there is less anonymity than there was all those years ago when, ime anyway, dommes were clustered in certain areas of London and with the internet pictures/details are so much more available. The Boss was talking a while back about one of her friends who had found another acquaintance advertising as a PD within a week of her starting. I don't think he was particularly looking for her....

It is one of those where do we stop if we let it happen issues.