UKM - Kidnap scenarios - UK

Peter · 11-08-2012, 08:25

I have just been reading Mr. Stockholm's blog on kidnapping. I can appreciate the prolonged excitement and anxiety that such scenes may generate but there are one or two issues that occur to me and, purely out of ignorance of this type of play, I'd appreciate some clarification based on personal experiences.

1. If you want to be abducted from a public place, there is always the risk that a member of the public will intervene. The nature of that intervention may be to come to your aid personally or to report the abduction to the police. Obviously, this depends on the perceived risk to the victim but, if someone were to place a bag over my head and force me into a car outside a public house, I would be surprised if nothing was done. Of course, a mistress can be more subtle than this and escort the victim to a less public place to be hooded and cuffed or whatever. So how are these public scenes managed?

2. As far as remote locations are concerned, there are two issues here. The first is, as Mr. Stockholm notes, the time involved to arrange and realise the scene which means that it may be quite expensive. The second is to do with personal security, particularly of the mistress. A third party would surely have to be involved to ensure that?

3. When you arrive at the chambers, how are you escorted inside without the Norris Coles of this world being alarmed by the goings-on? Presumably, the victim will not be cuffed and bagged on the doorstep?

bgx · 12-08-2012, 09:43

As regards point 3, I could imagine that you would be transported in the boot of a car or back of a van and it may be a simple reverse into the garage and then enter the premises through the back door ? You could have been told to get into the boot and then tied etc

Peter · 12-08-2012, 10:10

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Originally Posted by bgx

As regards point 3, I could imagine that you would be transported in the boot of a car or back of a van and it may be a simple reverse into the garage and then enter the premises through the back door ? You could have been told to get into the boot and then tied etc

Yes, that's a possibility. Although I am not inclined to ask for this service myself, I thought I would try to give those that enjoy these scenarios the opportunity to tell us of their experiences. As far as I am aware, it has never cropped up as a topic for discussion before.

numquata · 12-08-2012, 13:29

This isn’t my scene either and I have no personal experience. I can shed some light on point 2 though, based entirely on hearsay, as it was from a conversation, and a very long time ago at that, with a London domme who offered this service. So I can’t vouch for it.

It is expensive; obviously, as it takes far more time, planning and people (see below) than a “regular” session. For that reason, she didn’t do it very often. She used to set up remote locations, since there is always the danger of external intervention, as you point out, plus the fact that London is comprehensively covered by CCTV (more so now than back in the day). Obviously there has to be a degree of compromise and pre-arrangement to get the client to be in the location at some point in time, but then there’s compromise in any role play. As to her personal security, it takes more than one person to do an effective kidnapping role play. She was helped by a guy whose day job was a driver/minder for celebrities so not only did he know the city well but could also handle himself if need be. And often other players as well.

12-08-2012, 13:38

Its a nice fantasy to be kidnapped off the street by a group of Dominant women and taken to their lair, then used for their amusement and pleasure; not sure that it is a fantasy I would want to live out as a session.

12-08-2012, 14:26

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Originally Posted by reefknot

Its a nice fantasy to be kidnapped off the street by a group of Dominant women and taken to their lair, then used for their amusement and pleasure; not sure that it is a fantasy I would want to live out as a session.

I think that for me to make it as realistic as possible I would have to do the scenario with a domme I didn't know While I am aware that I would get out alive etc there would be more of a frisson about it.

JohnFred · 15-08-2012, 22:10

Is anyone aware of any Mistresses who have teamed up with one making the arrangements and the other carrying out the kidnap? That way a victim could have a scene with a domme he or she didn't know without any prior contact

Mr Stockholm · 15-08-2012, 22:19

Hello, Peter

Firstly, thank you for reading my blog. I am abroad at the moment, but I can answer most of your points briefly. I should be covering most of them in the future I hope.

1. This has never happened. I've always been kidnapped from a deserted place, usually in pitch black.
2. No mistress I have approached has ever considered kidnapping me on her own and I wouldnt expect her to either.
3. This can be done in a variety of ways. The most imaginative yet is being led through the street disguised as a blind man.

Part of the problem with this play is touched on by lisal. The most intense experience with a domme is the first time she kidnaps you, it's not quite the same after that. Thank you all for your consideration of the topic. Interestingly, the type of play only began to appeal to me in the last year or so. You never know when Stockholm syndrome will strike

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chris4slavery · 18-08-2012, 17:52

This is a fascinating area for me too. I sometimes think about being "arrested"/ abducted by some Female Supremacist style secret police.
Then maybe interrogated and given a judicial beating at an unknown location.Infront of a big group of witnesses eg a mix of Femsupremacists/ vanilla Women who are curious about this sort of thing.

I also like the idea of being overpowered rather than submitting. Goddess Severa of NY ( sometimes visits Europe) is 6'5, muscular and a martial arts black belt.Maybe the alternative is roleplay with tasers/ cs-gas etc. Or perhaps a Mistress who is good with wrist/ leg cuffs?

I'm into combat sports so to me, the true overpowering Mistrss is quite rare.

boot-boy · 18-08-2012, 19:18

I absolutely love role play scenarios kidnap being one of my particular favourites. It does not actually have to be done in public or outdoors it can be done inside the chambers for instance setting the scene in another room before going into the dungeon (this is both safer for both parties and well I can imagine a lot cheaper to organise too). Perhaps a drink, a romantic meal or a blind date. Then something is discreetly slipped in your drink or chloroformed, gagged, shackled and hooded and then dragged into the dungeon for the role play to begin either way the physiological aspects are more important than the actual physical setting of the kidnap, for me anyway....

Setting the scene beforehand, really helps me to get in the zone and to lose myself completely during the session, it’s so much fun!

boot boy

x

11-08-2012, 08:25	#1
Peter Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 701 Reputation: 61	Kidnap scenarios I have just been reading Mr. Stockholm's blog on kidnapping. I can appreciate the prolonged excitement and anxiety that such scenes may generate but there are one or two issues that occur to me and, purely out of ignorance of this type of play, I'd appreciate some clarification based on personal experiences. 1. If you want to be abducted from a public place, there is always the risk that a member of the public will intervene. The nature of that intervention may be to come to your aid personally or to report the abduction to the police. Obviously, this depends on the perceived risk to the victim but, if someone were to place a bag over my head and force me into a car outside a public house, I would be surprised if nothing was done. Of course, a mistress can be more subtle than this and escort the victim to a less public place to be hooded and cuffed or whatever. So how are these public scenes managed? 2. As far as remote locations are concerned, there are two issues here. The first is, as Mr. Stockholm notes, the time involved to arrange and realise the scene which means that it may be quite expensive. The second is to do with personal security, particularly of the mistress. A third party would surely have to be involved to ensure that? 3. When you arrive at the chambers, how are you escorted inside without the Norris Coles of this world being alarmed by the goings-on? Presumably, the victim will not be cuffed and bagged on the doorstep?

12-08-2012, 09:43	#2
bgx Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Geordieland Posts: 3,578 Reputation: 66	As regards point 3, I could imagine that you would be transported in the boot of a car or back of a van and it may be a simple reverse into the garage and then enter the premises through the back door ? You could have been told to get into the boot and then tied etc __________________ O wad some Power the giftie gie us, to see oursels as ithers see us! MS BGX: Mistress Snakebite's operating system for BGX PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE GEORDIE NATION NO POT POURRI !

15-08-2012, 22:19	#8
Mr Stockholm Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Alternate between London and the back of a white van. Posts: 29 Reputation: 10	Hello, Peter Firstly, thank you for reading my blog. I am abroad at the moment, but I can answer most of your points briefly. I should be covering most of them in the future I hope. 1. This has never happened. I've always been kidnapped from a deserted place, usually in pitch black. 2. No mistress I have approached has ever considered kidnapping me on her own and I wouldnt expect her to either. 3. This can be done in a variety of ways. The most imaginative yet is being led through the street disguised as a blind man. Part of the problem with this play is touched on by lisal. The most intense experience with a domme is the first time she kidnaps you, it's not quite the same after that. Thank you all for your consideration of the topic. Interestingly, the type of play only began to appeal to me in the last year or so. You never know when Stockholm syndrome will strike . __________________ http://dominatrixkidnap.blogspot.co.uk/

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12-08-2012, 13:29	#4
numquata Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 576 Reputation: 22	This isn’t my scene either and I have no personal experience. I can shed some light on point 2 though, based entirely on hearsay, as it was from a conversation, and a very long time ago at that, with a London domme who offered this service. So I can’t vouch for it. It is expensive; obviously, as it takes far more time, planning and people (see below) than a “regular” session. For that reason, she didn’t do it very often. She used to set up remote locations, since there is always the danger of external intervention, as you point out, plus the fact that London is comprehensively covered by CCTV (more so now than back in the day). Obviously there has to be a degree of compromise and pre-arrangement to get the client to be in the location at some point in time, but then there’s compromise in any role play. As to her personal security, it takes more than one person to do an effective kidnapping role play. She was helped by a guy whose day job was a driver/minder for celebrities so not only did he know the city well but could also handle himself if need be. And often other players as well.

12-08-2012, 13:38	#5
reefknot Guest Posts: n/a	Its a nice fantasy to be kidnapped off the street by a group of Dominant women and taken to their lair, then used for their amusement and pleasure; not sure that it is a fantasy I would want to live out as a session.

15-08-2012, 22:10	#7
JohnFred Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 24 Reputation: 10	Is anyone aware of any Mistresses who have teamed up with one making the arrangements and the other carrying out the kidnap? That way a victim could have a scene with a domme he or she didn't know without any prior contact

18-08-2012, 17:52	#9
chris4slavery Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 348 Reputation: 81	This is a fascinating area for me too. I sometimes think about being "arrested"/ abducted by some Female Supremacist style secret police. Then maybe interrogated and given a judicial beating at an unknown location.Infront of a big group of witnesses eg a mix of Femsupremacists/ vanilla Women who are curious about this sort of thing. I also like the idea of being overpowered rather than submitting. Goddess Severa of NY ( sometimes visits Europe) is 6'5, muscular and a martial arts black belt.Maybe the alternative is roleplay with tasers/ cs-gas etc. Or perhaps a Mistress who is good with wrist/ leg cuffs? I'm into combat sports so to me, the true overpowering Mistrss is quite rare.

18-08-2012, 19:18	#10
boot-boy Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 6 Reputation: 10	I absolutely love role play scenarios kidnap being one of my particular favourites. It does not actually have to be done in public or outdoors it can be done inside the chambers for instance setting the scene in another room before going into the dungeon (this is both safer for both parties and well I can imagine a lot cheaper to organise too). Perhaps a drink, a romantic meal or a blind date. Then something is discreetly slipped in your drink or chloroformed, gagged, shackled and hooded and then dragged into the dungeon for the role play to begin either way the physiological aspects are more important than the actual physical setting of the kidnap, for me anyway.... Setting the scene beforehand, really helps me to get in the zone and to lose myself completely during the session, it’s so much fun! boot boy x