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Old 05-05-2024, 09:57   #1
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Default When did Streeting and Khan become Tories ?

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The Tories who were spreading rumours that Susan Hall was running him close were just pulling our plonkers. Because that's what they do. No sense of self awareness or humility...
Well, you say that but it was Wes Streeting spinning the rumours.

“We’ve always feared this race would be close, so we were warning Londoners – don’t take the risk of waking up with a Conservative mayor. There’s no doubt, looking at some of the results across the country, that Gaza has been an issue”

Khan himself was saying on Thursday he was in a “close two-horse race”.

No self awareness or humility…

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Well, you say that but it was Wes Streeting spinning the rumours.

“We’ve always feared this race would be close, so we were warning Londoners – don’t take the risk of waking up with a Conservative mayor. There’s no doubt, looking at some of the results across the country, that Gaza has been an issue”

Khan himself was saying on Thursday he was in a “close two-horse race”.

No self awareness or humility…

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Very clever expectation management

Far better than the Tories
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Old 05-05-2024, 10:31   #3
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Very clever expectation management

Far better than the Tories
Not that clever when we could easily see through Labour’s spin. The legacy media were keen to buy it though just to create some interest.

Labour were trying to deflect from their >20% poll lead failing to materialise. The vote share of these elections gave Labour a lead of around half of that, and on a low turnout where many conservative voters stopped at home.

Caveats of local elections apply of course, but it’s still nowhere near the polling narrative we were being fed.

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Not that clever when we could easily see through Labour’s spin. The legacy media were keen to buy it though just to create some interest.

Labour were trying to deflect from their >20% poll lead failing to materialise. The vote share of these elections gave Labour a lead of just 9%, and on a low turnout where many conservative voters stopped at home.

Caveats of local elections apply of course, but it’s still nowhere near the polling narrative we were being fed.

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A lot of caveats

Only England, people often vote differently in local as opposed to general, turnouts, the only by election showed a massive swing

As we saw from Mark Harper this morning pretty much all the Tories have (their own spin on a disastrous set of results) plus seeing how many times you can say "the plan"

Meanwhile on ConHome

https://conservativehome.com/2024/05/05/goodbyeee/
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A lot of caveats

Only England, people often vote differently in local as opposed to general, turnouts, the only by election showed a massive swing

As we saw from Mark Harper this morning pretty much all the Tories have (their own spin on a disastrous set of results) plus seeing how many times you can say "the plan"

Meanwhile on ConHome

https://conservativehome.com/2024/05/05/goodbyeee/
A lot more noise coming from all sides of the discussion. None of it definitive or particularly insightful but just an attempt to ‘control the narrative’. With social-media largely replacing legacy media for all age groups that is now becoming a futile task especially since X has welcomed back free speech. People are forming their own opinions from seeing and hearing events without an imposed narrative.

The GE will likely be the back end of this year now by which time we will have a clearer answer on the Rwanda scheme for those voters who stayed at home on Thursday.

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Interesting (not massively convinced but still interesting)

https://twitter.com/JohninBucuresti/...5Es1_&ref_url=

Certainly didn’t know Ferguson is Holden’s partner

I’ll read her stuff with that in mind in future

This is a bit more interesting


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Wow – that's some serious tactical swing

In Con/Lab wards:
LAB +9
LD no change

In Con/LD wards:
LAB +2
LD +6

In 2021 no tactical voting

It’s fascinating reading the discussion about NEV but it seems bit of a blunt tool to me
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Interesting (not massively convinced but still interesting)

https://twitter.com/JohninBucuresti/...5Es1_&ref_url=

Certainly didn’t know Ferguson is Holden’s partner

I’ll read her stuff with that in mind in future
Damage limitation exercise by the tory central office, prepping the ground for the inevitable spin that will be spouted over the next few week. The high risk is they will appear as crying children.

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Wow – that's some serious tactical swing

In Con/Lab wards:
LAB +9
LD no change

In Con/LD wards:
LAB +2
LD +6

In 2021 no tactical voting

It’s fascinating reading the discussion about NEV but it seems bit of a blunt tool to me
The next GE more than any will hinge on tactical voters, especially as Brexit is now not on the agenda
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It was all ‘White’ for Humza but now it’s all…

Rangers fans making their feelings for the Scottish Nationalists known. Ouch. Hope Scooterman had other engagements on in Glasgow over the weekend. That was pleasingly brutal.

Scotland to remain in the Union in a decade methinks. If not longer.

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Genuinely gobsmacked

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...o-labour-party

She wouldn’t have been anywhere near my list of possible defectors
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Genuinely gobsmacked

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...o-labour-party

She wouldn’t have been anywhere near my list of possible defectors
Rats and sinking ship springs to mind
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